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by orion242
Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:31 am
Forum: General
Topic: Lab info
Replies: 0
Views: 27

Lab info

Webinars are seem to be a dime a dozen these days. This set was pretty good and see they recorded a prior version of it. Good info for techs getting in to lab work. https://buckleyonline.com/training/session-1-antec-controls-precision-airflow-control-devices/ https://buckleyonline.com/training/sessi...
by orion242
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: IP to everything
Replies: 8
Views: 395

Re: IP to everything

I'm still thinking the network components are cheaper due to scaling, certainly availability would be better volume too. ARCnet is probably the worst of all of them in cost and availability. Just a quick peek at that datasheet, the MAC is internal and it has several interface options to the PHY. Yo...
by orion242
Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:34 pm
Forum: General
Topic: IP to everything
Replies: 8
Views: 395

Re: IP to everything

Well I was in the belly of the beast again this week. Not mentioning the OEM, but its one of the biggies. The initial meet up with their reps and talking general work things, supply chain crap comes up. The head guy says anything IP is a current problem for them. Thinking to myself, yeah whatever. P...
by orion242
Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:57 am
Forum: General
Topic: IP to everything
Replies: 8
Views: 395

Re: IP to everything

On these small routers I'm dealing with I've noticed that a lot of them skip right over having individual ethernet chips; they go straight to having a network switch on die. And it still needs external magnetics and the RG45 jack(s) at a very minimum external. On BMS modules I haven't looked into i...
by orion242
Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:51 pm
Forum: General
Topic: IP to everything
Replies: 8
Views: 395

Re: IP to everything

At this point the components for IP are probably cheaper than serial network hardware (production scale) Highly doubt it. ARCnet, duh. 485, not a chance. Keep in mind even if a processor support IP directly it still needs external hardware. I very much prefer the bandwidth and troubleshooting tools...
by orion242
Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: IP to everything
Replies: 8
Views: 395

Re: IP to everything

Gonna be a real headache with owner supplied network. Been fighting that hassle on a few jobs lately. IT switches are on back order and not coming any time soon, but we need to be ready for Cx long before. Ended up pushing an extra through to pull our own temp network, but its not an all IP system s...
by orion242
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:57 am
Forum: Events around the world
Topic: BACnet User Group New England
Replies: 1
Views: 1451

Re: BACnet User Group New England

Kinda nuts that was the last meeting. Will have to reach out and see if this is dead or what.
by orion242
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:54 am
Forum: For Shame
Topic: Do you really need to change the Device ID?
Replies: 2
Views: 1158

Re: Do you really need to change the Device ID?

Do a bit of work for small OEMs and their controls. Would say, it does take a bit of thought and planning to put together a nice package that can get dropped anywhere on the planet and not require a bunch of hassle in the field. Not only day one, but years later when heaven forbid they want to chang...
by orion242
Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:03 am
Forum: Automated Logic
Topic: End of RMA support for old modules.
Replies: 5
Views: 2026

Re: End of RMA support for old modules.

Sold pallets of crap to these third parties joints in the past. Only worth the hassle if its a package deal, aka some of its gold but its all or nothing when it comes to reclaimed garbage. They know whats gold, not us when a site is stripped. If we bothered to bring everything back, I'm not filling ...
by orion242
Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: Automated Logic
Topic: End of RMA support for old modules.
Replies: 5
Views: 2026

Re: End of RMA support for old modules.

Sounds pretty good then. Most OEMs don't bother with repair period.

I'm sure the third party folks will jump on it after ALC calls it quits. At that point, one is really stretching things to infinity.
by orion242
Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:00 am
Forum: Automated Logic
Topic: End of RMA support for old modules.
Replies: 5
Views: 2026

Re: End of RMA support for old modules.

How is their repair service in general? Reasonable cost, turn around and fix most what's tossed at them?
by orion242
Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:32 am
Forum: General
Topic: New to the site
Replies: 17
Views: 5146

Re: New to the site

Maxburn wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:55 amI think they might be seeing some traffic from something unrelated like an amateur DOS.
Doesn't add up to me. If that was the case, why bother during a low traffic time slot. Running in AWS as well.

It's a big site though and its not free to mitigate nonsense when it comes along.
by orion242
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:55 am
Forum: For Shame
Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
Replies: 10
Views: 3202

Re: COINE version 2 super secure network

Sounds like the smart solution to me. Nothing wrong with isolating and protecting the older stuff. It’s just interesting they are ignoring older, sometimes current, systems capabilities with some of these requirements. Can't say their choice didn't make sense. But when top command say thou shall do...
by orion242
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:18 am
Forum: Automated Logic
Topic: Linux server
Replies: 3
Views: 1285

Re: Linux server

Maxburn wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:33 amAnd just WTF is windows doing all the damn time?
Yeah that's going to add up in the cloud unchecked. Wouldn't say stripping windows down to the bare min is going to get easier with the feature bloated server versions either.
by orion242
Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:07 am
Forum: For Shame
Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
Replies: 10
Views: 3202

Re: COINE version 2 super secure network

A year or two ago I had an RFP for modernization of a large VA hospital. It was very clear they wanted all Jaces and supervisors brought up to the latest supported version of Niagara. All the field devices where crap from the 90s with AX Jaces and a proprietary driver that was not supported in N4. W...
by orion242
Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:04 am
Forum: General
Topic: New to the site
Replies: 17
Views: 5146

Re: New to the site

Its been down quite a bit between 5-6am EST lately. Been down this morning for at least an hour.
by orion242
Mon May 31, 2021 2:13 am
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

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by orion242
Sat May 29, 2021 2:45 am
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

Both FG & FS the serial console is 3.3v @ 115,200 baud. FG the pinout is clearly marked in the solder mask. Its the same on the FS. FG-32 FG Serial Console.jpg FS-32 FS Serial Console.jpg These seem to drop you into a shell on the main CPU. There is a second CPU handling I/O on both, doesn't app...
by orion242
Fri May 28, 2021 8:38 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

older FG not the FS
by orion242
Fri May 28, 2021 8:18 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

black_syphilis wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 7:41 pmall FG have an unique root password
Didn't seem to be the case for the unit I had. For starters the serial console port drops you right into a shell with root access. No logon required. Would have to look at my notes, but pretty sure telnet was using one of the default creds.
by orion242
Thu May 27, 2021 12:47 am
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

If the hardware build is subpar, wouldn't expect the software side to be much better. There was an option on the FS after the firmware update to change the "OS password" which I would assume changes the root account. FG had telnet running, not sure if the FS does. Haven't had the time to p...
by orion242
Sat May 22, 2021 12:25 am
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

This seems to be the super cap on the FS32. HCAP-D 5R5 255-F.pdf Not a great choice for your typical hot BMS locations. Down south, even northern installed in a typical RTU electrical cabinet or steam plant? Huston we have a problem... Molded plastic enclosure, epoxy to seal the bottom, maybe better...
by orion242
Sun May 09, 2021 11:41 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

Only thing that jumps out to me is inux-3.4.39 is about 2013 vintage, Very old. This page suggests there might be 269 CVSS on it but I can't get it to display. https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=33&product_id=47&version_id=160797&page=2&hasexp=0&opdos=0&...
by orion242
Fri May 07, 2021 12:44 am
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

Scored a FS-32 for a tear down. Looks to be a NIB unit from 2017. Uses pretty much the same HCCCap supercaps. The bigger has molded plastic outer covering now. It may contain its blood better when it fails. The smaller one looks identical. Will dig up the datasheets and post. The location of the big...
by orion242
Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:54 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

Two years? That's just garbage.

About to pull the trigger on a FS-32. Kinda a pricey for just a tear down though.
by orion242
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:22 am
Forum: For Shame
Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
Replies: 10
Views: 3202

Re: COINE version 2 super secure network

Also would look into DFARS. Timeline on that pushing forward and solarwinds is interesting. Somethings change, others seem to find ways to ignore.
by orion242
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:52 am
Forum: General
Topic: New to the site
Replies: 17
Views: 5146

Re: New to the site

To add to this, I'm simply not going to post any content I spend a fair bit of time and money there first if ever going forward. Still like the site and will check in on it if its still around. If its something I put a deal of effort in, it won't be there anymore.
by orion242
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:16 am
Forum: For Shame
Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
Replies: 10
Views: 3202

Re: COINE version 2 super secure network

Seen it and in most cases it seems very fragile imo.

Solarwinds seems to be pushing a few things forward.
by orion242
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:34 am
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

My two pennies.. This is not the first they have heard of it regardless what they say. This kind of damage takes time typically and is not a old unit by BMS terms. Installed in a hot location brings this up much quicker with crap parts. Good spec stuff might last decades in the same conditions. I'm ...
by orion242
Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:58 am
Forum: Other
Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Replies: 18
Views: 5311

EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?

Part 1 – First sniff After hearing about inputs failing on the EasyIO FG-32 as a common fault, I decided to take a peek for myself. Thanks to a member in the community, I secured a used unit with several bad inputs for a reasonable price. Got the unit a week later and cracking it open, the first fau...
by orion242
Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:21 pm
Forum: General
Topic: New to the site
Replies: 17
Views: 5146

Re: New to the site

Lol, not a whole lot at the moment. Would put it in the still working off the ground, but time and motivation are scare resources. If it starts to take off I'm sure we will find more time. Last time H went down a few of us decided maybe it was time to build something else that's not ran by a bunch o...
by orion242
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:50 pm
Forum: For Shame
Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
Replies: 10
Views: 3202

Re: COINE version 2 super secure network

Yea, not getting windows updates these days seems like an extremely poor idea. Contractors are certainly getting files on the machines somehow. Just one thing slips through the whole thing could fall over. Will say that MS hasn't made it easy to get offline machines updated either. Been wrangling th...
by orion242
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:12 am
Forum: Events around the world
Topic: BACnet User Group New England
Replies: 1
Views: 1451

BACnet User Group New England

https://www.bacnetusergroupne.com/

Meeting coming up next week.
by orion242
Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:59 pm
Forum: News
Topic: CISA Cybersecurity Advisory
Replies: 0
Views: 1670

CISA Cybersecurity Advisory

Fun read. https://media.defense.gov/2020/Jul/23/2002462846/-1/-1/1/OT_ADVISORY-DUAL-OFFICIAL-20200722.PDF The ICS folks for months have been going on and on and on about non-network attacks on actual sensors. Can't get any real detail on this of course but it sure seem interesting. How does one exac...
by orion242
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: News
Topic: Niagara 4.9 is now released!
Replies: 2
Views: 1936

Re: Niagara 4.9 is now released!

Self signed basically says it came from such and such and the file isn't corrupted. Indeed. The question is that selfie cert also vaild for niagara, https, etc connections as well. One would like to think its limited to just code signing and not anything else. If folks are using that same cert for ...
by orion242
Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Niagara 4.9 is now released!
Replies: 2
Views: 1936

Niagara 4.9 is now released!

Next version of Niagara is out. Just on the surface there doesn't seem to be anything too exciting. Getting video to work again, that sure took long enough. In Niagara 4.9, all modules must be signed by valid, trusted certificate (may be self-signed). Is it me or does "trusted certificate"...
by orion242
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:31 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Ripple20 crap show
Replies: 3
Views: 1823

Re: Ripple20 crap show

Far as intel goes I was recently shocked when I learned you could not only not get an intel branded motherboard any more but they also recently dropped all support for the ones they made in the past. Seems to be an apple move, they are cutting off edge products and focusing on core business. This w...
by orion242
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:13 am
Forum: General
Topic: vBulletin CVE
Replies: 3
Views: 2329

Re: vBulletin CVE

With the amount of traffic they get, I would suspect the plumbing has a few different turns before it hits vB.
by orion242
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:01 am
Forum: News
Topic: Ripple20 crap show
Replies: 3
Views: 1823

Re: Ripple20 crap show

Schneider Electric IP VFD anyone? Should be a treat to firmware upgrade those... Andover Continuum for bonus points! EcoStruxure Building SmartX IP Controllers. Double word score! UPSs, PDUs, protocol gateways, it just goes on and on with most listed as "All Versions". Aka we haven't fixed...
by orion242
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:55 am
Forum: News
Topic: Ripple20 crap show
Replies: 3
Views: 1823

Ripple20 crap show

https://www.jsof-tech.com/ripple20/

What a mess.

More to come...
by orion242
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Another Dlink problem
Replies: 3
Views: 1708

Re: Another Dlink problem

Netgear had a wad of CVEs last month.

Frankly I just shake my head when I see this SOHO gear on a system. Don't use that trash at home, sure wouldn't on a site.
by orion242
Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:35 pm
Forum: Events around the world
Topic: The Role of HVAC Systems in the Transmission of COVID - 19 Part 2
Replies: 0
Views: 1137

The Role of HVAC Systems in the Transmission of COVID - 19 Part 2

In this webinar we will be reviewing the current knowledge about possible airborne transmission and what steps we might be able to take to help mitigate this risk in indoor environment. Attendees of this webinar will become familiar with the current research and scientific evidence that is available...
by orion242
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:27 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Keeping 'offline' win boxes updated
Replies: 0
Views: 995

Keeping 'offline' win boxes updated

Two products I have been playing with to keep isolated BMS networks that have windows boxes updated. BMS network with all the hosts isolated from any external network. How does one keep the PCs used by the staff for monitor updated especially when its more than one and not managed by the customers i...
by orion242
Tue May 19, 2020 6:46 pm
Forum: General
Topic: vBulletin CVE
Replies: 3
Views: 2329

Re: vBulletin CVE

Heard that as well. Must be fun fixing these in unsupported versions...not.
by orion242
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: OpenSSL security update
Replies: 0
Views: 942

OpenSSL security update

OpenSSL Releases Security Update 04/22/2020 12:02 PM EDT Original release date: April 22, 2020 OpenSSL version 1.1.1g has been released to address a vulnerability affecting versions 1.1.1d–1.1.1f. An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to cause a denial-of-service condition. The Cybersecurity ...
by orion242
Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Automated Logic
Topic: PSA; ALC optiflex under AAR; very long download times.
Replies: 6
Views: 2438

Re: PSA; ALC optiflex under AAR; very long download times.

You mean the VPN tunnel is creating the problem? I'm putting together an article with my thoughts on this but I don't see how that's the case. If your getting slow results in your testing directly connected, can't be the VPN, IP network, etc. Can only assume its some oddity either in the way its pa...
by orion242
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:38 am
Forum: Automated Logic
Topic: PSA; ALC optiflex under AAR; very long download times.
Replies: 6
Views: 2438

Re: PSA; ALC optiflex under AAR; very long download times.

First off on this thread all those test times are with a laptop straight to the module, no VPN. IMO you know its an issue then with that setup. Another thing to think about, just because there is an Ethernet port doesn't mean the host processor can handle anything close to what the limits are on th...
by orion242
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Trend Controls SET - Project Update
Replies: 0
Views: 975

Trend Controls SET - Project Update

This is a nice improvement for mass updating your SET database with many controllers. Hopefully you have something to start with just need any unique settings updated, but it also works if you have nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhecBKQoF4A
by orion242
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:18 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Trend Controls SET - Upload and Compare
Replies: 0
Views: 977

Trend Controls SET - Upload and Compare

How to upload a program from a controller and get its program. Its possible and depending on what you start with depends on what you end up with. Different situations and outcomes are numerous so this covers the case you have nothing. This is typically what I would do if I had nothing and needed a t...