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- Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:45 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: Maintenace Program, or lack of
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1476
Re: Maintenace Program, or lack of
That takeover pic is rough, it would have actually been easier to switch to DIN and have a rack of relays and spade crimp connectors.
- Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:42 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: Restaurant, I can't even eat out in peace
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3852
Re: Restaurant, I can't even eat out in peace
More. These might actually be using remote zones. Local medium high end hibachi restaurant. I can't stop seeing this now.
- Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:47 am
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: Restaurant, I can't even eat out in peace
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3852
Restaurant, I can't even eat out in peace
Right behind the reception desk, an insult to my profession. I mean, there might be remote zone temp sensors on a couple of those white rogers I'm not familiar with but the honeywells don't have them I'm aware of in that model.
- Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:52 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
- Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:07 am
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
Re: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
Is the customer paying you T&M to follow this rabbit hole to the other side of the planet? No. But I have gained a lot of traction towards black listing these MSA, Fieldserver, protonode, Safety Company, Chipkin devices. We are on notice now and any failures of these devices to provide valid da...
- Thu May 11, 2023 11:20 am
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
Re: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
Reply on cleaning up the file mess, must format the device. Which means you have to reapply the firmware(?) and config, and of course put the IP address back in. Actually not a bad day if I'm on site but a big nope to fix remotely. Did I mention this site is a 2 hour drive?
- Wed May 10, 2023 11:49 am
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
Re: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
Following up on this, I think I spent two days out there in 2023 so far but we put off testing until I could see irrigation running. The web page they are sending is steadily improving and I seem to have valid data out of some arrays like alarms and zones working on the BACnet side of things. Irriga...
- Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:17 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
Re: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
November 1 (Tuesday) Please be patient until next week. We hope to be done by Monday. I will test it and let you know. November 14 (two Mondays after, but they didn't specify which Monday) New firmware and web app files sent. November 29 Back at site, uploaded firmware and web app files. Web app an...
- Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:16 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
Re: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
October 13 Back at site with LTE modem and my own network. Set everything up and this time leave the chipkin gateway off my local network. Hunter panel connects to Centralus no problem at all, explore around and everything looks good. It offered to upload the local panel which worked. Connect chipk...
- Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:12 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
Re: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
October 6 (in office) Set up web server in digital ocean on the two TCP ports hunter says they need to talk to for AWS. Demonstrate that my laptop behind the LTE modem can get those pages so not only can I resolve DNS for the specific IoT AWS thing they need to reach but my modem is not blocking th...
- Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:10 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
Re: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
September 14 First site visit; Hunter panel sees LAN option as WiFi, and fails firmware update. Supplied SD card issues? Tried several different formats (not mentioned in hunter docs). Reached out to local Hunter support. September 19 Met hunter rep late in afternoon, they did firmware update with ...
- Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:10 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
- Replies: 12
- Views: 45352
ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway
This is my experience with integrating to a Hunter ACC2 irrigation panel via a Chipkin/MSA/Fieldserver gateway. This won't make me any friends but this is a true account and I think it needs to be told. All of this is in 2022, so far. Early April ; inquiry about irrigation system integration into ou...
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:30 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: IP to everything
- Replies: 8
- Views: 25261
Re: IP to everything
On the dual ethernet module I'm seeing the LAN transformers and a group of relays to accomplish the failover, as you say that's all required. Does appear the two network ports and switch are on board with the CPU. https://www.ti.com/product/AM3352#features The dual ethernet models are 100M, the bigg...
- Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:07 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: IP to everything
- Replies: 8
- Views: 25261
Re: IP to everything
On these small routers I'm dealing with I've noticed that a lot of them skip right over having individual ethernet chips; they go straight to having a network switch on die. WAN and LAN ports are defined by VLAN internally. It's cheap to get a bunch of ports that way. On BMS modules I haven't looked...
- Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:35 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: IP to everything
- Replies: 8
- Views: 25261
Re: IP to everything
How do bid against others unless the spec is IP only? I think that's key, no engineer is going to spec this. Why would they? This is being thrown on us from manufacturers that are ditching serial buss and going with IP. At this point the components for IP are probably cheaper than serial network ha...
- Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:58 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: IP to everything
- Replies: 8
- Views: 25261
IP to everything
It seems ALC has thoroughly embraced the IP network to everything in the system in their new modules. They haven't strictly said ARCnet is going away but they know they have problems getting ARCnet silicon and there is a big push to go IP for new systems design. ALC doesn't seem to be unique in this...
- Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:00 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: Do you really need to change the Device ID?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 17318
Re: Do you really need to change the Device ID?
True, I'm minimally involved in doing the same for one of our projects and seeing it from both ends like this is a big help. At least this project will have a screen involved from the start, which is a major problem when you can't get them. ALC is "supposed" to train these OEMs how to use ...
- Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:22 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: Do you really need to change the Device ID?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 17318
Do you really need to change the Device ID?
Four MAU units of varying vintage but all under 5 years old. All have ALC OEMCtrl modules in them. #4 has touch screen and is simplicity itself to configure baud, MAC, device ID. Units 1 and 2 have no screen. 1,2,4 all are IOFlex. Unit 3 is IOZone, nobody understands why what is on site differs from...
- Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:31 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: BACnet Ethernet vs BACnet IP, same difference.
- Replies: 1
- Views: 12939
Re: BACnet Ethernet vs BACnet IP, same difference.
Bonus, the unit can be discovered by YABE and apparently CAS BACnet Explorer. But the point discovery is broken, neither YABE nor Automated Logic discovery can see any points in the units. Fortunately the points are explained in the PICS and you can manually map them. Shocker, it isn't on the BTL ce...
- Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:28 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: BACnet Ethernet vs BACnet IP, same difference.
- Replies: 1
- Views: 12939
BACnet Ethernet vs BACnet IP, same difference.
PICS not posted publicly that I can see but; BACnet Protocol Implementation Conformance Statement Vendor; BeaconMedæs ~ Data Link Layer Options ISO 8802-3 (“Ethernet”) LAN Turns out the panel actually communicates BACnet/IP. I guess technically that uses ethernet right? Now that we know the docs are...
- Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:01 am
- Forum: Automated Logic
- Topic: End of RMA support for old modules.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 36061
Re: End of RMA support for old modules.
Yes, third party is on board. Some of the M class boards off of ebay we got last year were from a repair outfit. I don't know where they get their stock though, I've never seen anyone buying old / broken boards.
- Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:42 am
- Forum: Automated Logic
- Topic: End of RMA support for old modules.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 36061
Re: End of RMA support for old modules.
Cost is quite reasonable. They won't fix board damage or obvious liquid damage. My biggest complaint was comm trouble boards sometimes coming back as no fault found. Sure it works fine on 3 feet of cable but in the big network it takes the whole thing down. Granted a lot of those could be one of our...
- Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:40 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
- Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:06 pm
- Forum: Automated Logic
- Topic: End of RMA support for old modules.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 36061
End of RMA support for old modules.
Really old ALC modules like the Z, T, R, and G line modules plus the S6104 may no longer be repaired by ALC. These modules are 18 to 25 years old, it was a good run.
Basically if you have anything running legacy CMnet exec6 or older you really should be getting that on a replacement/upgrade plan.
Basically if you have anything running legacy CMnet exec6 or older you really should be getting that on a replacement/upgrade plan.
- Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:55 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
Re: New to the site
Yeah, I put them in uptime robot and they go down multiple times a day. Usually in the morning. Doesn’t last long though. I think they might be seeing some traffic from something unrelated like an amateur DOS.
- Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:27 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
- Replies: 10
- Views: 33359
Re: COINE version 2 super secure network
Sounds like the smart solution to me. Nothing wrong with isolating and protecting the older stuff.
It’s just interesting they are ignoring older, sometimes current, systems capabilities with some of these requirements.
It’s just interesting they are ignoring older, sometimes current, systems capabilities with some of these requirements.
- Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:08 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
Re: New to the site
They may be getting attacked, basic DOS perhaps. I created a post in the help section and they said they got hit with a lot of traffic. Right this second I'm getting this; Database Error Database error The database has encountered a problem. Please try the following: Load the page again by clicking ...
- Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:40 am
- Forum: Automated Logic
- Topic: Linux server
- Replies: 3
- Views: 18558
Re: Linux server
Moar logs. Remember to add the five minute alarm threshold to the event duration in right column.
- Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:33 am
- Forum: Automated Logic
- Topic: Linux server
- Replies: 3
- Views: 18558
Re: Linux server
Now have four customers on Linux in Azure. It's a bit of a learning curve on the OS side but refreshing how much knowledge transfer there is in the Zabbix/OpenVPN areas. End result is a faster experience on the front end with less resources used. And just WTF is windows doing all the damn time? I fe...
- Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 am
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
- Replies: 10
- Views: 33359
Re: COINE version 2 super secure network
Recent podcast "Hack the Plant Episode 11: Department of Defense Policy and ICS Security". Some talk of DFARS but more interesting was some specific talk about power meters being rejected because of things like they have bluetooth and optical connections. It's like they ignored they can be...
- Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:02 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
- Tue May 25, 2021 1:56 pm
- Forum: Other
- Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 99430
Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Still says Linux-3.4.39. Will say most of the CVE issues will be resolved by not having those functions in use on this. Anything in the IP stack though...
- Thu May 20, 2021 10:34 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
Re: New to the site
That didn't take long, hvac-talk down as I write this.
- Wed May 12, 2021 6:49 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
Re: New to the site
Remember that big disruption when hvactalk went down, then came back up and was upgraded to current version of vbulletin but broke all links and other stuff, then got downgraded to the old unsupported version again? That got kicked off by being forgotten about and deleted. They didn't even have a cu...
- Wed May 12, 2021 3:18 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
Re: New to the site
It's just nice to have something that's a little more in our control and not tied to a marketing agency that "forgets" all about that forum and deletes all copies of it.
- Sun May 09, 2021 1:39 pm
- Forum: Other
- Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 99430
Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Comparing things, ALC latest release drvier reports this in logs; Linux version 3.12.10-alc (buildcomp@rdvm-yocto1404) (gcc version 4.7.3 20130226 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1-4.7-2013.03-20130313 - Linaro GCC 2013.03) ) #1 PREEMPT Tue Jun 11 19:25:09 EDT 2019 The latest beta I'm aware o...
- Sat May 08, 2021 1:40 pm
- Forum: Other
- Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 99430
Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
Only thing that jumps out to me is inux-3.4.39 is about 2013 vintage, Very old. This page suggests there might be 269 CVSS on it but I can't get it to display. https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=33&product_id=47&version_id=160797&page=2&hasexp=0&opdos=0&a...
- Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:29 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
- Replies: 10
- Views: 33359
Re: COINE version 2 super secure network
OK, saw my first DFARS request today from the front office. Looks expensive.
- Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:14 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
- Replies: 10
- Views: 33359
Re: COINE version 2 super secure network
Oh, haven't seen that one yet. Reminds me about the XKCD regarding standards.
- Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:11 pm
- Forum: Other
- Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 99430
Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
I shared it in the other place but I've got a FW series that was installed in a hot location for about two years and is leaking too. It was a beta test...
- Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:14 pm
- Forum: Automated Logic
- Topic: Linux server
- Replies: 3
- Views: 18558
Linux server
My first stab at what it takes to get a server on it's feet with Ubuntu to host WebCTRL.
- Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:07 pm
- Forum: Other
- Topic: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 99430
Re: EasyIO or EasyI…uh Oh?
I shared this stuff with my contacts in JCI channel manager and Broudy a while back. Not expecting anything to come back to me about this but EasyIO has known that there's awareness of this in the community for about three weeks now.
- Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:03 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
- Replies: 10
- Views: 33359
Re: COINE version 2 super secure network
Patches? Please, they don't even load DRIVERS to get the hardware running. So they have these 42" something like 3k monitors that can't be set beyond 1024x768 because it's missing a video driver. Nobody is supporting these machines at all, it's actually scary the amount of thought that goes int...
- Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:58 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: New to the site
- Replies: 17
- Views: 50781
Re: New to the site
It's nice to have options. The big upset with the forum was also a reminder of who owns the site and why, which doesn't really sit right with some people. Current banner on it is an example of that.
- Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:18 pm
- Forum: Events around the world
- Topic: AHR 2021 cancelled
- Replies: 0
- Views: 24324
- Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: COINE version 2 super secure network
- Replies: 10
- Views: 33359
COINE version 2 super secure network
USAF CE network is super secure. So secure that no machine is allowed to reach out to windows update. Supposedly some administrator somewhere is supposed to update these machines manually, like with sneakernet. The inevitable result is machines that never get an update and they have the hard shell c...
- Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:39 pm
- Forum: For Shame
- Topic: Server and gateway installed boss, I'm heading to lunch.
- Replies: 0
- Views: 23931
Server and gateway installed boss, I'm heading to lunch.
Bonus, this isn't some mechanical space, this is the MDF room next to IT offices.
- Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:21 pm
- Forum: News
- Topic: Niagara 4.9 is now released!
- Replies: 2
- Views: 16169
Re: Niagara 4.9 is now released!
Self signed basically says it came from such and such and the file isn't corrupted. It's verifiable if they post their public key like you probably have seen with downloads and MD5 hashes. If they spend a couple dollars it can be trusted with a little work that isn't really that bad. After a recent ...
- Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:25 am
- Forum: News
- Topic: Another Dlink problem
- Replies: 3
- Views: 17044
Re: Another Dlink problem
More news https://view.email.sans.org/?qs=5afb8bf5bc8cd7762f607debde393af5a2cf2f24e09212e441841bf5d28d2f7cb9fdbc7092d026068fcc772938b1bd13d1b1b09ca2c1f42169f3cb7e1f2c714bc7f7666995dcb3ef Home Router Study Finds “Alarming” Security Issues (July 6, 2020) A study of 127 home routers from seven manufact...
- Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:27 pm
- Forum: News
- Topic: Ripple20 crap show
- Replies: 3
- Views: 17712
Re: Ripple20 crap show
Far as intel goes I was recently shocked when I learned you could not only not get an intel branded motherboard any more but they also recently dropped all support for the ones they made in the past. Seems to be an apple move, they are cutting off edge products and focusing on core business. This wa...